Last week I talked about a serious young teacher quitting her job because of A.I. and how said excrescence was affecting her students.
Here’s another take on the same topic, courtesy of Insty (thankee, Squire):
“We’re talking about an entire generation of learning perhaps significantly undermined here,” said Green, the Santa Clara tech ethicist. “It’s short-circuiting the learning process, and it’s happening fast.”
Perhaps?
From a student:
“I think there is beauty in trying to plan your essay. You learn a lot. You have to think, Oh, what can I write in this paragraph? Or What should my thesis be? ” But she’d rather get good grades. “An essay with ChatGPT, it’s like it just gives you straight up what you have to follow. You just don’t really have to think that much.”
As for the teachers:
“Massive numbers of students are going to emerge from university with degrees, and into the workforce, who are essentially illiterate, both in the literal sense and in the sense of being historically illiterate and having no knowledge of their own culture, much less anyone else’s.”
“How can we expect them to grasp what education means when we, as educators, haven’t begun to undo the years of cognitive and spiritual damage inflicted by a society that treats schooling as a means to a high-paying job, maybe some social status, but nothing more?”
Well, yeah. Perhaps [gasp!] not all kids are college material. And I think this A.I. cheating thing is proving the point.
And then, from the teechurs:
“Every time I talk to a colleague about this, the same thing comes up: retirement. When can I retire? When can I get out of this? That’s what we’re all thinking now,” he said. “This is not what we signed up for.” Williams, and other educators I spoke to, described AI’s takeover as a full-blown existential crisis.
Of course, this whole situation is fixable — there’s always a solution to a problem of this nature — but don’t expect the current crop of teachers to figure it out. Especially if it takes actual hard work and thought.
Small wonder their students are screwed up and hopeless.
Read the whole article. It’s worth it.
The only colleges worth a damn will be the ones who bring back essay questions, handwritten in the blue book. STEM might survive if it preserves the rule of showing your work in midterm and final questions, but even there it will be a pain to structure labs etc. to get at the student’s knowledge instead of the LLM’s database.
My old high school principal maintained that only 25% maximum should go to college. He might have been optimistic.
STEM is a bit of bullshit too. In a way, hear me out.
I am in my early 40’s. I went to a VOC school for computers for high school and went on and got a 2 year, 4 year and an MBA for college degrees. I work in IT (Services side, NOT programming).
I am seeing secretaries (Labeled ADMIN ASSISTANTS), and other bullshit positions and titles make more money than me and work less and also get to work from home some or all of their time.
Trades are really where it is at. If I could go back and do it over, I would seriously look into plumbing, HVAC or electrical. People always need a place to eat and shit and those places need electric, climate control and water and toilets.
STEM can be good in some cases, but sometimes, not so much.
Also, side note, this work from home – I am waiting for, as the saying goes “the other shoe to drop”. For all of the arrogent entitled cock suckers who work from home in jobs, how long before the CEO’s say, hey, we are located in New York, and we are getting a deal having this person be paid Kansas salary, but we COULD outsource to China or India… GONNA LAUGH MY ASS OFF WHEN THAT HAPPENS, and it truly could.
Entrance applications will have to require that all entries are handwritten so that you can weed out the ones who never learned cursive – which used to be a sign of literacy.
In the last 10 years a handful of colleges have been going out of business. I hope more colleges go tits up.
Less children (birth rate down in the USA), and of the children left, many are realizing that college is a scam where you pay big money to listen to some liberal windbag try to brainwash you.
I smile every time I see a college have financial issues and I giggle every time one goes out of business.
The liberals are finally getting karma. The ivory tower is being torn down by common sense.
As far as students graduating high school and college and being functionally illiterate, Covid really butt fucked this country. People stayed home and got even dumber than they already were.
I still blame the Baby Boomers and Gen X overall a little more than the kids though, the Boomers and Gen X were running (RUINING) the show, NOT ALL of course, I know not everyone is a brainwashed liberal idiot, but this bullshit happened on their watch. Some of the “kids” (anywhere from 1 to 30’s) are stupid as fuck, but the leadership let this all happen.
A laptop or ipad for every kid? New pretty buildings for school? Paying teachers outragous salaries?
Yea, all of those bullshit inititives really fixed the problem eh?
And to be fair, I am an OLD millennial, if I was born 2 years earlier I would be a Gen X.
Millennials I find to be about maybe 50 50.
Half ot eh millennials have their shit together, work, rent a nice place or maybe own if they found a deal, save for retirement, and have normal habits.
THhe other half, needs a kick in the fucking ass. Liberal gimme shit for free mentality. Entitled, assholes who think everything should change, someone else should do the work, and they should be the center of the universe. These fuckers are vile cock suckers.
I hope the half of millennials like me that work can overcome the other half of stupid fucks, so far with Trump we are seeing some change but I fear what happens if a Democrat wins in 2028, because then 2029 will be one scary fucking time to live…
I have a relative who teaches business management at a college and she resisted some of the technology and testing techniques. She preferred exams to be written rather than multiple choice. We were talking about my experiences of going back to college. She said that multiple choice exams can accurately determine whether students know the material or not. That’s great but that’s only half of the lesson involved. Reports and proposals and such are not communicated through multiple choice forms in the business world. Reports and proposals are written out so the writer needs to know spelling and grammar which isn’t taught on multiple choice exams. Multiple choice exams may test knowledge but they do not test a student’s ability to express that knowledge base. What good is an idea or discovery if you cannot express it effectively?
This AI and plagiarism need to go. We could adopt the curriculum from 50-80 years ago and students would be far better prepared for the world than today’s rubbish.
I think AI will make the general population dumber. Smart phones are cool and convenient but this bullshit has gone way too far where you put info in and the AI writes a paragraph for you?
Ive seen a temp that did that where I work, used AI to write emails. What the fuck do you do when you have to talk in person? Does someone speak for you?
WTF
“Does someone speak for you?”
There you have it.
You just made some “authority” splooge in their pants by saying the magic words.
In 1972 I had a math prof who did not believe in written exams. All exams were oral, in his office, in a simple question and answer format, with discussion.
I have never worked harder in any school and never leaned more.
Nor did he. Just don’t expect any of today’s crop of ivory-tower inhabitants to do anything like that much work, even to protect their jobs.
Did Ted Kaczynski have he right ideology but took the wrong actions?