Looks like the old Second Amendment is rolling right along, and not towards a cliff (like under Obama and Biden) either. Here’s a happy event:
A report from CBS News indicated that President Donald Trump ordered the Department of Justice (DOJ) not to appeal the ruling against suppressor registration secured in August via the Silencer Shop v. ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) lawsuit.
I think that I might have to look seriously at acquiring a tube or two in the near future.
I just need a little downward price adjustment or two…
I’m with you on the price adjustment. Given that it is little more than a metal tube with a few baffles and simply screws onto the barrel, I don’t see why they cost hundreds of dollars. I mean, quality, yeah sure. But for the suppressor to cost as much as the 10/22 it’s mounted on? That’s a little steep.
I agree with you on the price. The only thing justifying a high price is using a strong yet light weight material like titanium or something. That can be harder to work with than a more conventional steel alloy. The tools wear out faster.
In this area of the Blue void, they banned threaded barrels or some such. I think that means you just get an adapter to go from a non threaded barrel to a threaded piece for the suppressor to attach to. I haven’t looked into suppressors due to cost and available funds
I suspect it’s a case of charging what the market will bear. There’s a lot of pent up demand for suppressors, given how recently they became less regulated; I think once the giddiness of finally being able to get one wears off prices will come down.
About the cheapest (excuse me, “least expensive”) suppressors I’ve seen are the brand-new ones from Hi-Point. Yeah, the makers of ridiculously clumsy and poorly made pistols. They have a .22 caliber one that has economized on materials and manufacture, but the review I read of it last month (sorry, can’t remember where) said it worked just fine.
If you’re shooting a .22 that uses straight blow-back to run it’ll work just fine.
Their larger caliber cans are pretty much intended for their own brand of pistols since they do not have a booster (“Nielson device”) to keep a tilt-barrel pistol running.
Went to a site linked on the big retailer site for a 159 dollar 22 noise suppressor. Sent me to a link on ATF site to start the form needed to support the tax they no longer get to collect.
Statist bastards.
Nope, price point is OK but the hurdle that made was insurmountable.
Prices are coming down. As suppressors become more plentiful, and more and more want to buy them, the market will supply more and more, and price will start to come down. It’s inevitable; that’s how markets work. At some point, on the other end, btw, a lot of new manufacturers who enter the market will be unable to continue to profit at the lower price points, and may be driven out, reducing supply. Sooner or later, market equilibrium will be reached. And it’s not there now – demand is outstripping supply, but supply is rapidly catching up. The rule is still “charge what the market will bear” – as it should be. New companies who could be entering the market as suppliers are, I suspect, hesitant to jump into manufacturing suppressors; they want to see how the regulatory environment shakes out post-Trump.
Eliminate the NFA regulatory stupidity that classifies suppressors as “firearms,” and let them be sold just as barrels, triggers, slings, and all sorts of other accessories are sold, and that is when the market will really go to town. Imagine buying a suppressor at WalMart or like you might by a scope or a new pistol grip. One can dream . . . .
I propose simply eliminating the NFA’s regulations entirely, perhaps except for registering machine guns (and eliminate the post-86 rule, and the limitations on adding guns to the registry). I can live with that one, if the rest of the NFA goes away.
NFA = Not Fucking American.
Just picked up a .22 GSG plinker – out the door price ~ $300. Bought one with threaded barrel expecting to add a sound suppressor. Almost jumped out of my socks when the friendly merchant OD told me the cheapest decent screw on pipe costs 350 + 45 + local tax and my state REQUIRES me to file some online BS and be issued a case number or some such. Might even be a state fee on top…..WTF! – over. Have not yet made that leap. Grrr.
Kim,
Look into a DIY build, what used to be called a Form 1 build.
As there is no longer a tax, and there is no longer a requirement to register silencers*, then making your own silencer for personal use is very much legal at the Federal level, as is making any normal firearm.
Years back I built a couple of 8 inch long, 1.5 inch diameter cans (registered to my NFA Trust).
Titanium tubes and end caps, with Stainless Steel baffles.
Cost per can was less than $300 for materials, and the tube and end-caps were already threaded.
Around another $200 for the jig to shape the baffles, but that’s a tool you could borrow if you go this route (I’d loan you mine if you wish).
The tools needed are minimal, a drill press and a hydraulic press (manual is fine).
You and some friends could spend a few hours in someones home shop or garage and hold a can building party followed by BBQ and adult beverages.
*If one is a party covered by the ruling.