Not Here, It Ain’t

Here’s one from Britishland that’s guaranteed to make yer blood boil:

Shoppers trying to arrest shoplifters could expose themselves to legal action and even imprisonment for assault, a lawyer has said.

Chris Philp told a fringe event at last week’s Tory Party conference that members of the public should make citizen’s arrests on thieves and called on security guards to step in where it is safe to do so.

But Ed Smyth, partner at Kingsley Napley, said that the law generally only permits citizen’s arrests for serious cases that could be tried in a crown court. They could also be used for low value shoplifting cases, but the force used must always be reasonable in the circumstances.

And guess what?  You don’t get to decide what’s “reasonable”.

No wonder that law-abiding Brits just cower in the face of villainy.  The law is not on their side.

4 comments

  1. First they want me to be an unpaid checker, and now they want me to be unpaid security? No thanks.

    I went to Lowes yesterday. In the month or so since I’d last been, they’d eliminated ALL of the checkers. No longer an option but to use the self checkout. Great fun when you’re buying lumber and cement, or other stuff you can’t just scan quickly and move on.

    If I see a shoplifter I’m just going to shrug and move on.

    1. If I just need a 2×4 or two, Lowes is alright. But I’ve gotten to the point where I’d rather go to a real Lumber Store instead. And yeah, Lowes hasn’t eliminated the checker lines yet, but they are never staffed. So might as well.

  2. Similar in Canada
    I worked nights on trains going into Canada. I have many unbelievable stories about the happenings between White Rock and Townsend. There’s truth, in insanity increasing during a full moon.

    There were miles of bonfires and beer parties up & down the beaches. The great sport was throwing rocks or sand grenades (spent beer bottles filled with sand) at us on the trains.

    By chance, a train got stopped and the brakeman ran down and captured the lad that broke their windshield. The RCMP were called and responded. They threatened to arrest the brakeman for an illegal detention, which was equal to kidnapping under their laws.

    Of course they let the poor boy go free. The railroad was forced the fit the engines and cabooses with bulletproof glass.

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